Tenacity – a multi-track audio editor/recorder

An audacity fork. Reason for forking described at https://tenacityaudio.org/docs/_content/Introduction_and_Mot... . Their own summary:

> at the primary reasons were attempts at adding telemetry and a new desktop privacy policy [by the new audacity maintainers]

Previously discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34835200

Audacity had a 5 year plan on removing technical debt and overhauling the UI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYM3TWf_G38 (1 hour long video)

Will this be merged into Tenacity or are they going further apart?

If you're curious about the legacy link being a 404, the correct link seems to be that: https://tenacityaudio.org/legacy/legacy.html

(found sniffing around https://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacityaudio.org , this 404 was reported on IRC)

I like this more https://www.ocenaudio.com/features

I dropped audacity because of the audacious cloud crap in an application I view as Notepad for wav files

Tenacity has been pretty nice

I'm having difficulty building it on Artix (an arch derivative).

    [ 63%] Linking CXX executable ../RelWithDebInfo/tenacity
    /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/lto-llvm-3894d5.o:   (.data.rel.ro._ZTI21ListNavigationEnabledI8wxWindowE[_ZTI21ListNavigationEnabledI8wxWindowE]+0x10): undefined reference   to `typeinfo for wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>'

It seems like Tenacity is getting more attention in recent days. Why that is, I'm not sure, but it's great to see it getting more traction! (I say this as a current maintainer! :D)

In recent times, Tenacity 1.4 alpha 1 was released! This is the culmination of a months-long rebase effort off Audacity 3.7.5, bringing features like realtime effects, non-destructive pitch shifting and stretching, beats and bars support, and plenty of others. Of course, there's no telemetry either, including cloud integration too.

Keep in mind that this is an alpha release, so we're still working on the final 1.4 release and are still a good deal away from it. For example, one of the most notable things missing at the moment are our themes, but those will return in 1.4 alpha 2 as I'm working on a brand new theme system to address the limitations of the current theme system. I intentionally did not reimplement our themes again because I was tired of dealing with the theme system we inherited, and this has been in the work for several years now. We should be close to fruition, but I'm performing some refactoring first before I continue on :)

Meanwhile, we're also working on an unplanned 1.3.5 release. It was originally intended to be a rebuild of 1.3.4 (which I'll explain when 1.3.5 is released), but it's going to include a fix for a spectrogram crash, Windows dark mode support, fixes for recent compilers, and a new Windows on ARM build! I also plan to get macOS builds back again, but I don't have a Mac to test things on. I know macOS builds are currently packaged incorrectly, and I'm currently trying to figure that out. If anyone wants to test out the latest 1.3.5 builds, you can here: https://nightly.link/tenacityteam/tenacity/workflows/cmake_b.... All in all, you can think of 1.3.5 as, at this point, having a few 1.4 alpha 1 backports, kind of like how 1.3.4 had a few pre-rebase 1.4 backports.

Anyways, I'm glad to see some interest in Tenacity. If anyone wants to contribute, feel free to come over to https://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacity and contribute in anyway you can! We also have a manual that needs to be (re)written (for 1.4) here: https://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacity-manual. Finally, you can also contribute to our Weblate here: https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/tenacity. However you contribute, we will wholeheartedly accept it! Thanks in advance too! :D

For something more simplistic, there is also kwave: https://apps.kde.org/kwave/

Will have to try this out. I have yet to find a reason to not just continue to use the old version 2.x audacity from the pre-telemetry days. I just need simple post-production tools after rendering out of my DAW and the old audacity does the trick.

This is interesting because it's based on audacity, but Audacity is also going through a more thorough rewrite.

Does anyone see multitrack recording happening well in-browser?

Has anyone tried BandLab? Aside from the social slop and recent aggressive advertising, their recording app is super impressive, glitch free, low latency, easy to use and sounds great.

Or will this always be the domain of installable software?

While Audacity is the app that I always have on every platform, UI is not so good. That shouldn't be hard to remake in raylib.

I didn't know it was still maintained. Just gave it a try on this laptop with Manjaro Linux + XFCE and noticed it both messes with the desktop panel toolbar making it rearrange and flash repeatedly for some seconds while loading and also when changing preferences, then doesn't correctly fit fonts into the dropdown lists in all toolbars. It appears to me it doesn't take into account that the list elements add a bigger empty space around fonts compared for example to buttons, so it considers them shorter and they're partially cut out. I don't have a GH account to properly report this.