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laxdlast Sunday at 8:44 PM3 repliesview on HN

- firewall?

PF seems to me like pretty much the most well regarded firewall there is - with a nice, sensible DSL for config. If you don't like like it, you can use use IPFW or IPFILTER, which are alternative, built-in, firewall front-ends.

- In the end, it was just too much having to re-invent the wheel for common server tasks

Maybe you have built your routine around a system that have reinvented the wheel? I think FreeBSD knowledge degrades more slowly than that of Linux distros.

- I'm just not an OS dev.

That's how I feel when I enter the chaotic Linux world. Do you think my life revolve around keeping up with this shit? :)


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hecifatolast Sunday at 10:02 PM

> That's how I feel when I enter the chaotic Linux world.

I feel that as a Linux user. I really like Linux, I use it on my desktop and it runs all my servers. Delving into forum posts to find some solution to a specific problem can be exhausting. Sometimes you get a top result from like 2011 and it is out of date so you then need to spend X minutes trying to look up something more recent.

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laxdlast Sunday at 10:09 PM

Addendum: I've used FreeBSD as my daily driver (I hate that term) since around 2004. Including through cs/math university. With Windows in a VM for "I need it". The longer I've used it the more I'm annoyed by the trivialities of Linux distro management. And the bugs that happens between ill fitting parts composed by underfunded distro developers.

And I didn't mean to imply that FreeBSD is stale. There is big stuff happening continuously. Right now it's compatibility with Linux Wifi drivers, which will make FreeBSD more laptop-able. And pkgbase, which brings some of the compile-your-self flexibility of FreeBSD to binary management, and merges the two tools that decides what makes up your system into one. And kinda makes FreeBSD into the slim system that people already claims it to be.

My pet conspiracy is that pkgbase happened because the powers that be didn't want the 1000 battles to remove junk. Any time anyone wants to remove something there's always one or two guys on the mailing list claiming their livelihood depends on not having to do "pkg install Ø". With pkgbase its all gone.

antodlast Sunday at 10:42 PM

They might've been trying freebsd back when pf wasn't well supported. Back when I last used openbsd (which might be nearly 20yrs ago now - eek), pf support on freebsd was lagging quite a bit.

Not sure what things are like now though - I'm guessing it's much better as pf was obviously the best option :)

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