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sowbuglast Sunday at 9:22 PM0 repliesview on HN

Some products are so good they don't need marketing. Some marketing is so good the product doesn't matter. But most of the time you need both.

Even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis had a great product (idea): if doctors wash their hands, fewer of their patients will die. But his marketing (personality) was off-putting, and his ideas weren't accepted until after his death.