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skydhashyesterday at 5:25 AM2 repliesview on HN

Your points are valid but I'd like to present counterpoints:

> IDE support is an issue still

IMO, languages and platforms that require IDEs, also leads to complex software that is hard to maintain. The only exception is smalltalk.

> Filesystem challenging when using a laptop that runs out of battery

Easily resolved by using apmd and it `-z` flag. I think there's a couple utility out there that you can script for monitoring battery level.

> MATE lacking volume and WiFi controls

One of the good strength of OpenBSD is that the cli utilities are quite nice that I've not installed gui replacements (I'm using cwm). I don't mind doing a few `doas ifconfig` every once in a while.

> but a GUI to help me gain a better understanding of the security settings

I'm with you on that one. But the man pages are truly extensive. And the OS code is fairly readable.

> how to correctly use virtualization

Current vm solution is very bare. For docker, you'll need a linux VM, but the installation process maybe troublesome. It only supports serial interaction, which can be disabled by default in some distros.


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lelanthranyesterday at 2:14 PM

>> MATE lacking volume and WiFi controls

> One of the good strength of OpenBSD is that the cli utilities are quite nice that I've not installed gui replacements (I'm using cwm). I don't mind doing a few `doas ifconfig` every once in a while.

I also don't mind doing things like this for network, but for volume this is very much an instant always-there requirement. If I need to mute/lower/raise the volumne in a hurry, I don't want to hunt for the application playing the sound, then find the volume slider on it, etc.

This is literally a deal-breaker for desktop/laptop users.

What I'd like to know, if there are any OpenBSD people reading, is how hard is it to contribute a fix or similar to make the desktop environment's volume control work?

I can obviously fix it for myself with some gui script/keyboard shortcut/etc, but I'd rather have anything be in the default installation whenever I refresh the install.

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metalforeveryesterday at 9:29 AM

Hello, thank you for taking the time to respond.

“ IMO, languages and platforms that require IDEs, also leads to complex software that is hard to maintain. ”

The truth is that I (and probably other users) don’t always have the luxury of choice and a large portion of commercial codebases have a very large number of files. Sometimes, it is multiple codebases at once with a very large number of files .

“ Easily resolved by using apmd and it `-z` flag. I think there's a couple utility out there that you can script for monitoring battery level.”

Yeah but I don’t want to accidentally lose data if I shut the lid and accidentally forget to plug the thing in for a few days . “ One of the good strength of OpenBSD is that the cli utilities are quite nice”

I don’t want to enter and exit a cli tool in order to increase and decrease the volume . Ideally it’s a control in the top right or a keyboard mapping . What if something loud begins playing in a browser tab and I have to change the volume quickly?

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