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FabHKyesterday at 9:58 AM4 repliesview on HN

Outperformance metric is basically power density. The model described is some 13 kg and delivers 750 kW peak, 350+ kW sustained.

(That's 28 pounds, 1000 hp peak, 470+ hp sustained.)

The 40% improvement is actually 36% and is versus the previous model of the same company.


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superxpro12yesterday at 2:33 PM

Peak power is a number that can be manipulated. You just dump short circuit current into a winding. Even if that peak lasts for 1 microsecond, you can "claim" eye-watering horsepower numbers.

I wonder if we defined peak as sustained peak over 100 milliseconds, or some more meaningful number, what that would do to the claims. You aren't really generating meaningful torque over 1 microsecond.

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impossibleforkyesterday at 10:14 AM

I sort of wonder how well these things can be scaled down.

Wheel hub motors are obviously bad, for harshness reasons, but if you could have a motor like this weighing 1-2 kg, and put one on each wheel, that'd be okay.

Power-wise this would be okay if things are linear. 26 kW per wheel sustained power output is more than enough for a light car. The question is what torque a scaled-down machine can be expected to have.

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egorfineyesterday at 10:19 AM

> That's 28 pounds

or about the same as a small dog

vanderZwanyesterday at 10:05 AM

Thanks. Do you also happen to know the power density of the motors in the average EV car? Because the article uses "nr of Tesla Model 3" as a unit, which is meaningless without further details about it power density.

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