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gloosxyesterday at 5:24 PM2 repliesview on HN

They never saw any kind of object, they only saw labeled groups of pixels – basic units of a digital image, representing a single point of color on a screen or in a digital file. Object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. Pixels are not objects.


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madaxe_againtoday at 7:12 AM

My friend, you are blundering into metaphysics here - ceci n’est pas une pipe, the map is the territory, and all that.

We are no more in touch with physical reality than an LLM, unless you are in the habit of pressing your brain against things. Everything is interpreted through a symbolic map.

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gkbrkyesterday at 5:38 PM

Okay, goalpost has instantly moved from seeing to "seeing and touching". Once you feed in touch sensor data, where are you going to move the goalpost next?

Models see when photons hit camera sensors, you see when photons hit your retina. Both of them are some kind of sight.

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