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> non-political community

"Non-political community" is an oxymoron, like "non-aquatic lake". Politics is the verb that communities do.


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Certhas11/04/2025

Non-political almost always means "accept the social status quo I am used to".

I think there is a reasonable argument that the default for a community with technical goals should be to accept social status quo conventions unless they conflict with the communities technical goals. But if the social default is "girls don't code and queers should hide" there is a reasonable counterargument that these conflict with the goal of making the technology (and community) available to everyone.

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echelon11/04/2025

> "Non-political community" is an oxymoron

No it's not.

I'm an LGBT person with a trans partner and I find many codes of conduct to be chastising and purposefully finger pointing to conservative people.

A lot of them are basically, "your religious teachings or cultural upbringing aren't welcome here"

I don't agree with religious texts, but that's what you're wagging in their face with some of the CoCs.

Leave it at "don't be an asshole". It's that simple.

The current political climate, I feel, is a direct reaction to this.

A politically neutral space wouldn't permit religious people to harass trans or LGBT people, but it also wouldn't give anyone latitude to throw stones the other way either.

CoCs are "you're not welcome here at all".

Another thing: you always see language and project logos modified to bear the rainbow, trans, and BLM colors. You never see anything supporting Asians, white people, men, or Christians. If you did this, you would be called out as a racist. Which is so ironic.

Let's just get along and work together. Maybe we'll find more agreements amongst ourselves that way instead of trying to divide everyone into camps.

Some progressives are going to get very pissed off at this comment, but I grew up and live in the South. You can (and often must) work with people you don't agree with. It's not impossible to be friends either. You might wind up changing their mind, and they might wind up making you more tolerant as well.

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oguz-ismail11/04/2025

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