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int_19hlast Sunday at 10:45 PM2 repliesview on HN

The logic here is the same as why ACLU defended Nazis. If you manage to defeat censorship in such egregious cases, it subsumes everything else.


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pjc50yesterday at 1:32 PM

Increasingly apparent that was a mistake.

adriandlast Sunday at 11:33 PM

But Nazis are people. We can defend the principle that human beings ought have freedom of speech (although we make certain exceptions). An LLM is not a person and does not have such rights.

Censorship is the prohibition of speech or writing, so to call guardrails on LLMs "censorship" is to claim that LLMs are speaking or writing in the sense that humans speak or write, that is, that they are individuals with beliefs and value systems that are expressing their thoughts and opinions. But they are not that, and they are not speaking or writing - they are doing what we have decided to call "generating" or "predicting tokens" but we could just as easily have invented a new word for.

For the same reason that human societies should feel free to ban bots from social media - because LLMs have no human right to attention and influence in the public square - there is nothing about placing guardrails on LLMs that contradicts Western values of human free expression.

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