alt Hacker NewsYou didn't use global state in the same sense that I did. I mean global as in state of the entire world, not just the computer you are on.
I tamed our inter-set dependencies by doing things like starting dbus on a different port for each tests - now I can test with real dbus in the loop and my tests are fast and isolated. We have a strict rule of what directories we are allowed to write to (embedded system - the others are read only in production), so it is easy to point those to a temp dir. It was some work to set that up, but it tames most of your issues with global state and allows me to verify what really counts: the system works.
For a CRUD web app your database separation of concerns makes sense. However in my domain we have lots of little data stores and nobody else needs access to that store. As such we put it on each team to develop the separation that makes sense for them - I don't agree with all their decisions, but they get to deal with it.
Sure. I wasn’t responding to your statements but I can understand what you mean. If your code manipulates the physical world (and not in a “sets this bit on a disk” sort of way) then you have to validate that action. Whether that valuation should be decoupled from the business logic that drives that piece really depends on the complexity of the system. At some point you are going to do full integration valuation so it’s a question of balance. How much is tested that way vs more isolated.
Tests that work and verify the system works are the Pri0 requirement. Most of the conversations about how best to test are structured for the benefit of people who are struggling with meeting the Pri0 because of maintainability. With enough effort any strategy can work.
> However in my domain we have lots of little data stores and nobody else needs access to that store.
If the little data stores are isolated to small individual areas of code then you probably already have the necessary isolation. Introducing the lightweight data store isolation layer might be useless (or not, context dependent). Now if these individual areas are doing things like handing off result sets to other code then I would have something different to say.