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zh3today at 8:14 PM3 repliesview on HN

AI following the Libet ([0]1983) paper about preconscious thought apparently preceding 'voluntary' acts (which really elevated the question of what 'freewill' means).

* [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6640273/


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Lerctoday at 8:32 PM

The prima facie case for free will* is that it feels free. If you can predict the action before the feeling it removes that argument (unless you want to invoke time travel as an option)

*one of the predominant characterisations of free will, anyway. I'm a compatiblist, so I have no issue with caused feelings of decision making being in conflict with free will. I also have a variation of Tourette's, so I have a different perception of doing things wilfully when compared to most people. It's really hard to describe how sometimes you can't tell if something was tic or not.

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criddelltoday at 8:31 PM

Well, what does freewill mean to scientists?

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keyboredtoday at 9:03 PM

That it precedes voluntary acts tells us that most of what we do are not conscious. Which has been known for over a century, maybe millenia.

(opinion stolen from some Chomsky video)