> I agree it would have been nicer if the message was more polite. But if you compare that to having the backbone follow through with meaningful long-term changes against a corporation you don't trust or respect, there shouldn't even be a discussion.

You’re framing it as either/or when it isn’t. You can push for real change and communicate like an adult. The two aren’t in conflict; often they reinforce each other.

> it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something

So you want people to talk about actions, not manners. Great.

> And don't even get me started with the people who come in here just to point out that Codeberg isn't perfect either.

Except actions they did with Codeberg...?

Sharing their experience about Codeberg isn't off-topic in a thread about a major repo migrating to Codeberg.

Just the fact of someone migrating a project to another platform during the last week of November suggests that last straws were involved. That’s more of a January or a June thing than November/December.

Fury can be a powerful motivator to commit to doing something you’ve been putting off. It also means your community announcement is going to be pretty spicy, unless you let someone else write it.

Politeness is free and easy, it's not a big ask and it's certainly not an either-or.

I wouldn't even call it politeness, it's more like basic human decency. Would Andrew Kelly appreciate it if the LLVM guys publicly wrote a blog post calling the Zig maintainers losers and monkeys? Just screams of immaturity, which isn't surprising seeing their political views.

> it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something

I absolutely agree, but people in charge of large projects/groups, in any context, should know better than to put their personal feelings and opinion on topics into the "corporate" messages they are putting out. I am guilty of this myself, no one is holier than thou, but still. AK should know better.

> it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something.

The zig maintainers think that, too, thus the presence of a Code of Conduct on their website. But, as always, it's a "rules for thee, but not for me" situation - if the author was called a "monkey" by someone else, I can guarantee he would invoke the CoC to call them out, but when he does it, it's fine.

Nobody thinks that. They just don't think that "doing something" gives you an excuse to be an arsehole. Especially if you are hypocritically violating your own CoC.

This. The round & slimy language is what big corps do. I don't like how this post is written – but what really matters here is that they are doing a good job moving away from GitHub. I hope more OSS does this.