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WalterBrighttoday at 6:59 PM2 repliesview on HN

> but I've also seen it save students' lives and stop mass violence events.

The saving lives thing is always the excuse for total surveillance. Trading away your freedom for security gets you neither.


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runjaketoday at 9:41 PM

Touche. I get that and agree. It's certainly a polarizing conversation.

I'm hoping the conversation and courts arrive at definitive guidance and regulations that preserves freedom, doesn't add to the surveillance state and provides some kind of answer to the half or more than half of the population that expects school districts to surveil everything kids do on their devices (self-harm, harm, bullying, etc).

It's a really weird experience to hear the same powerful people argue both sides. How do you expect us to do one without the other?

And again, it's... safe to assume there are a lot of bad actors in education where enforced safeguards are needed.

mikkupikkutoday at 7:08 PM

It also relies on knowledge of a counterfactual situation. Was the guy arrested for a threat genuinely going to hurt people, or was it a dumb joke that was taken seriously by somebody snooping in a conversation they lacked the context to even understand?

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