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encyclopedismtoday at 3:52 PM2 repliesview on HN

What I'm trying to tease out is isn't an opinion alone. It's a generally understood problem in the scientific community. I'm highlighting it to illustrate the issues at hand.

> So you end up either needing to draw a line somewhere between mechanical computation and qualia computation, or you can relegate it to supernatural (a soul) or grey areas (quantum magic).

Quite literally the jury is still out. It is a hotly debated topic approached from various angles. Arguments are nuanced which is why you fill find ideas such as panpsychism thrown into the mix. I hate appealing to authority but in this instance it is more than warranted. Humans have grappled with this for centuries and the problem hasn't gone away.

Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness


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Workaccount2today at 4:11 PM

>In the same way my digital thermometer doesn't have quaila. LLM's do not either.

The hard problem of consciousness doesn't support either of those statements, and instead illustrates why they can't confidently be made.

So it's confusing because you seem to recognize that qualia cannot currently be measured, while also making a statement measuring qualia.

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soulofmischieftoday at 4:51 PM

> The meta-problem of consciousness is (to a first approximation) the problem of explaining why we think that there is a [hard] problem of consciousness.

And thus we have this sprawling discussion. :)