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observationistyesterday at 10:12 PM12 repliesview on HN

Where's the emdash key on your keyboard?

There isn't one?

Oh, maybe that's why people who didn't already know or care about emdashes are very alert to their presence.

If you have to do something very exotic with keypresses or copypaste from a tool or build your own macro to get something like an emdash, or , it's going to stand out, even if it's an integral part of standard operating systems.


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nonfamousyesterday at 10:17 PM

Typing hyphen-hyphen-space is hardly exotic — I've been doing that since well beyond the advent of generative AI.

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gnatmanyesterday at 10:20 PM

Exotic? At least in every microsoft product i.e. word, outlook, etc. that I’ve had to use for school and business for the last couple decades does it automatically just by typing “—-“.

jonas21yesterday at 11:09 PM

> Where's the emdash key on your keyboard?

The dash key is right between the "0" and the "="

Press it twice and just about every word processing program in existence will turn it into an emdash.

czottmannyesterday at 10:42 PM

My German keyboard has umlaut keys: üäö. I use them daily. I was told that in other parts of the World, people don't have umlaut keys, and have to use combos like ⌥U + a/o/u.

Boy, I sure hope they don't think me an AI.

Just because many people have no idea how to use type certain characters on their devices shouldn't mean we all have to go along with their superstitions.

saagarjhatoday at 4:24 AM

Where’s the copy paste key on your keyboard? Oh, there isn’t one? How could anyone possibly use this then?

ben_wyesterday at 11:45 PM

> Where's the emdash key on your keyboard?

> There isn't one?

Mac, alt-minus. Did by accident once, causing confusion because Xcode uses monospace font where -, – and — look identical, and an m-dash where a minus should be gets a compiler error.

iOS, long-press on the "-" key.

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skeeter2020yesterday at 11:41 PM

standby for the masses to drop the nerd-equivalent of "before it was cool" comments in 3...2...

lurking_sweyesterday at 11:45 PM

hyphen + space in microsoft word will often (depends on your settings) produce an em dash. It’s not some crazy hidden feature.

These days word is less popular though, with google docs, pages, and other editors taking pieces of the pie. Maybe that’s where the skepticism comes from.

troupoyesterday at 10:17 PM

> There isn't one?

I've used em-dash since I got my first MacBook in 2008.

- Option + minus gives you en-dash

- Option + Shift + minus gives you em-dash

It quickly becomes automatic (as are a bunch of other shortcuts). Here's a question about this from 2006: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/377843

dhussoetoday at 2:45 AM

shift-option-dash

crooked-vyesterday at 11:20 PM

Shift-option-minus on a Mac, just like how shift-option-8 is the degree symbol and option-slash is the division symbol.

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pb7yesterday at 10:34 PM

My computer converts -- into an emdash automatically. Been using it since 2011. Sorry you've been missing out on a part of the English language all this time.