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tapoxiyesterday at 5:52 PM4 repliesview on HN

It's telling that Valve uses a user space anti-cheat (VAC) for Counter-Strike 2, but the competitive community overwhelmingly rejects that and ops to use a third-party Windows-only kernel mode anti-cheat (FACEIT).


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jsheardyesterday at 5:55 PM

I think even the "Major" tournaments that are officially sanctioned and sponsored by Valve, though organized by third parties, usually run on FACEIT or similar.

SirMasteryesterday at 7:52 PM

Cheating in CS2 is rampant and VAC2 seems to be just about useless.

FACEIT is significantly more effective.

Draikenyesterday at 8:00 PM

I mean, people are dumb.

Anti cheats are as much a marketing ploy as they're actual anti cheats. People believe everyone is cheating so it must be true. People believe nobody bypasses the FACEIT anti cheat so it must be true. Neither of those are correct.

Riot revels in this by marketing their anti cheat, but there are always going to be cheaters. And sooner or later we will have vulnerabilities in their kernel spyware. I much rather face a few cheaters here and there (which is not as common as people make it to be on high trust factor).

You think tournament organizers or pro players know the first thing about anti cheats? They buy the marketing just like everybody else.

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bee_rideryesterday at 7:16 PM

Eh, some employers also have root for your work PC, that’s different from asking to install a rootkit on your personal PC.