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echelonyesterday at 6:30 PM0 repliesview on HN

Yeah, but then the US doesn't get to spy on you anymore ;)

Stuff tends to stay open until a new leader emerges. Then the closed source shell appears.

We've seen this with the hyperscalers and in a million other places.

Use open to pressure and weed out incumbents and market leaders. Then you're free to do whatever.

So we'd be replacing NSA spying with MSS spying.