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pessimizeryesterday at 9:01 PM0 repliesview on HN

Corporations and center-left/center-right liberal governments support now and have always supported mass immigration because it lowers wages. Nobody especially cares about identifying them, the reason they flooded in recently (over the past couple decades) is because they were deliberately let in through written policies. They did this despite public objections. In the US, we know exactly who they are; we issue illegal immigrants special IDs and business licenses. They get bank loans; they're homeowners. They get in-state tuition at colleges.

Starmer is currently using anti-immigrant sentiment to push his digital IDs, but that's because he is a cynic. He does whatever he needs to do to satisfy his bosses.

> That movie Scarface in the first 25 minutes tells you something.

It tells you that the US puts nations under siege for decades for committing the crime of self-determination, then lets in with absolutely no obstacles all of the economically destroyed and desperate, the extremely right wing, and the participants in CIA-financed death squads who flee, then uses them as a voting block (and a resource) to support the continuation and escalation of those sieges.

edit: immigrants commit less crime in the US than natives. Their children commit more crime, because they rise to the level of natives at their socioeconomic bracket.