logoalt Hacker News

themanmaranyesterday at 10:43 PM2 repliesview on HN

> The metric reflects the proportion of all tokens served by reasoning models, not the share of "reasoning tokens" within model outputs.

I'd be interested in a clarification on the reasoning vs non-reasoning metric.

Does this mean the reasoning total is (input + reasoning + output) tokens? Or is it just (input + output).

Obviously the reasoning tokens would add a ton to the overall count. So it would be interesting to see it on an apples to apples comparison with non reasoning models.


Replies

ribosometronometoday at 12:14 AM

As would models that that are overly verbose. My experience is the Claude tends to do more than is asked for (e.g. immediately move on to creating tests and documentation) while other models like Gemini tend to be more concise in what they do.

reeeliyesterday at 11:15 PM

I'm out of time but "reasoning input tokens" from fortune 5000 engineers sounds like a lobotomized LSD dream, would you care on elaborating how you distinguish between reasoning and non-reasoning? vs "question on duty"?

show 2 replies