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inglor_cztoday at 10:53 AM3 repliesview on HN

I actually live in a steel-and-coal city (Ostrava).

Go ahead and do it. If you are right, you will make a lot of money.

I've heard many such theories from people who never smelled molten iron, but actual factory owners say that it is not viable without truly massive subventions and massive tariff protections, which aren't that far from trying to build a decarbonized autarky.

A big steel foundry in Třinec delayed their decarbonization project in May 2025, for two years, because it just isn't competitive against cheaper steel from Asia and the European authorities, while being very vocal about green tech, aren't giving out billions left and right to compensate.


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Tade0today at 11:32 AM

What's really happening is that China and India have been beating them on price for years now and are currently buying out European production capacity, so those factory owners are just pulling every lever they have to stay afloat.

It has nothing to do with decarbonization and everything with them having no idea how to compete. It's all the same across your northern border with coal - the coal miners want a graceful phase out because they understand that Australian pit-mined coal is cheaper despite being hauled across the world, but the owners want to keep the status quo and associated government subsidies.

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vanviegentoday at 12:58 PM

> actual factory owners say

Those people who have large investments in traditional production facilities? Hmm, I wonder what they have to say about disruptive tech on the horizon..

saubeidltoday at 11:05 AM

"Actual factory owners" also said getting rid of child labor would bankrupt them; they said the same thing about sick leave and a whole number of other now standard measures.

I'm sorry, but you don't ask the fox if the chicken coop should be protected.

Of course their capitalist interest would suffer if they had to make investments, but I don't really care if the monopoly man can have one fewer yacht.

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