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reducesufferingyesterday at 9:21 PM4 repliesview on HN

"AI could never replace the creativity of a human"

"Ok, I guess it could wipe out the economic demand for digital art, but it could never do all the autonomous tasks of a project manager"

"Ok, I guess it could automate most of that away but there will always be a need for a human engineer to steer it and deal with the nuances of code"

"Ok, well it could never automate blue collar work, how is it gonna wrench a pipe it doesn't have hands"

The goalposts will continue to move until we have no idea if the comments are real anymore.

Remember when the Turing test was a thing? No one seems to remember it was considered serious in 2020


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blargeytoday at 12:21 AM

> "the creativity of a human"

> "the economic demand for digital art"

You twisted one "goalpost" into a tangential thing in your first "example", and it still wasn't true, so idk what you're going for. "Using a wrench vs preliminary layout draft" is even worse.

If one attempted to make a productive observation of the past few years of AI Discourse, it might be that "AI" capabilities are shaped in a very odd way that does not cleanly overlap/occupy the conceptual spaces we normally think of as demonstrations of "human intelligence". Like taking a 2-dimensional cross-section of the overlap of two twisty pool tubes and trying to prove a Point with it. Yet people continue to do so, because such myopic snapshots are a goldmine of contradictory venn diagrams, and if Discourse in general for the past decade has proven anything, it's that nuance is for losers.

Fraterkesyesterday at 10:21 PM

The turing test is still a thing. No llm could pass for a person for more than a couple minutes of chatting. That’s a world of difference compared to a decade ago, but I would emphatically not call that “passing the turing test”

Also, none of the other things you mentioned have actually happened. Don’t really know why I bother responding to this stuff

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semi-extrinsicyesterday at 10:19 PM

> Remember when the Turing test was a thing? No one seems to remember it was considered serious in 2020

To be clear, it's only ever been a pop science belief that the Turing test was proposed as a literal benchmark. E.g. Chomsky in 1995 wrote:

  The question “Can machines think?” is not a question of fact but one of language, and Turing himself observed that the question is 'too meaningless to deserve discussion'.
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webdood90yesterday at 9:34 PM

> blue collar work

I don't think it's fair to qualify this as blue collar work

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