‘I haven’t witnessed second order effects therefore they don’t exist’ is a myopic position to take. The advertisement argument is so cynical and depressing I find it hard to even think about rebutting. It probably doesn’t make sense to try, because it’s an axiomatic world view, these are kinda hard to argue with.
That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying for people my age and my parents and grandparents - they all had these diseases. I don’t think you can even make a comparison for chicken pox - literally everyone used to get that one. Same for measles and mumps.
Keep in mind I’m not saying don’t take the vaccine. I’m just saying I don’t believe that these second order effects are as prevalent as they’re made out to be