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roenxitoday at 1:33 AM7 repliesview on HN

As in producers not over-producing RAM should be illegal? A presumably short-term price spike in RAM of all things is a non-issue. It is a luxury good that only a very small number of people care about and there is no reason to think this blip is going to last. Apple did stuff like this all the time at their high point in the late 2000s and early 2010s, and it would happen often in other markets. The world is not static and sometimes the situation changes and lots of supply is soaked up.


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politelemontoday at 5:00 AM

> It is a luxury good that only a very small number of people care about

This is an incorrect and incredibly out of touch comment fragment. Computer part derivatives are an essential item to economic activity in most countries.

potamictoday at 5:03 AM

> It is a luxury good that only a very small number of people care about

The world runs on computers. It is as essential as oil for the functioning of societies. Increase in silicon costs is going to increase costs unilaterally across the board. It happened during the pandemic and something similar will happen now. If anything it should be a wake up call to countries to start thinking about securing their own supply chains.

alsetmusictoday at 3:35 AM

> Apple did stuff like this all the time at their high point in the late 2000s and early 2010s, and it would happen often in other markets.

Interesting in that I thought about their purchase of $1B of solid state memory at the height of their iPod run. The difference is that Apple had a hit product that was selling as quickly as they could be produced and there was a legitimate need if they wanted to meet the demand.

FTFA:

> No, their deals are unprecedentedly only for raw wafers — uncut, unfinished, and not even allocated to a specific DRAM standard yet. It’s not even clear if they have decided yet on how or when they will finish them into RAM sticks or HBM!

I don't consider this legitimate. It's not illegal, but it sure seems unethical and scummy and it pissed me off. OpenAI throwing its weight around is harming ordinary people who aren't competing with them.

justinclifttoday at 9:05 AM

> It is a luxury good that only a very small number of people care about

It's raised the price of my in-progress workstation build by several thousand $, and now I'll likely not be able to build it. :(

I _really_ hope it's a "short term" price spike, but I kinda doubt it. :( :( :(

michaelmrosetoday at 1:46 AM

Who in developed countries doesn't buy computers and by extension ram

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shkkmotoday at 2:24 AM

> A presumably short-term price spike in RAM of all things is a non-issue. It is a luxury good that only a very small number of people care about

Um... What?

Pretty much every adult owns one or more items with DRAM chips in them and depends on businesses that use even more.

The supply crunch will effect a surprising spread of the economy given how ubiquitous computers are now.

Looking at delivery dates, the dram price blip could last over a year and the price blips further down could last even longer.

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