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nicboulast Sunday at 10:41 AM5 repliesview on HN

I'm in the "recent" immigrants group. I qualify for citizenship since a few years, but this Wehrpflicht nonsense is why I haven't sent my application yet.

I don't think that the social situation is as bad as you describe. I just think that people generally don't feel keen to put their life on the line for Germany.


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speedbirdlast Sunday at 4:13 PM

I think if you want the benefits of living in a country then you should be willing to defend it. This attitude of entitlement without responsibility is exactly what gives migrants a bad name.

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sunshine-olast Sunday at 11:21 AM

> I just think that people generally don't feel keen to put their life on the line for Germany.

Yes this what I am sincerely wondering: which group (however you want to define it) of relatively young people, do they believe they can leverage "to put their life on the line for Germany"?

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hilioslast Sunday at 11:26 AM

I think people generally aren't keen on putting their life on the line for anything. But even if this was a mandatory conscription, there is still the constitutional right of conscientious objection.

jijijijijlast Sunday at 2:48 PM

> I qualify for citizenship since a few years, but this Wehrpflicht nonsense is why I haven't sent my application yet.

First world problems...

You will always be able to object military service, it's not difficult at all and absolutely won't be any time soon. I have a hard time imagining you to be forced to do alternative service. In case of actual war, when mobilization becomes a reality, well... your origin country will likely be involved too.

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