logoalt Hacker News

Muromeclast Monday at 9:18 PM2 repliesview on HN

>yeah. OBVIOUSLY. good fucking riddance.

Are they really? Isn't it pretty normal "role status aria something something polite" thingy to announce feedback to user?


Replies

JoshTriplettlast Monday at 9:36 PM

Accessibility is more than just screen readers. Toasts are also not accessible for folks with low vision, low peripheral vision, etc. And the time-based disappearance is unpleasant for many people, as one of many examples of "accessibility improvements are also often usability improvements".

A message that you have to explicitly dismiss, and that's stored in a "message history" somewhere, is much more accessible and usable.

show 5 replies
madeofpalklast Monday at 10:14 PM

There's no such thing as accessibility. Accessibility is just usability.

Toasts have poor usability because its easy to miss them. This makes them bad for everyone, regardless of screen reader.

show 1 reply