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kevin061last Tuesday at 4:45 PM9 repliesview on HN

There is no AI bubble. The housing bubble was about artificially inflated housing assets.

People have been calling Bitcoin a bubble since it was introduced. Has it popped? No. Has it reached the popularity and usability crypto shills said it would? Also no.

AI on the other hand has the potential to put literally millions of individuals out of work. At a minimum, it is already augmenting the value of highly-skilled intellectual workers. This is the final capitalism cheat code. A worker who does not sleep or take time off.

There will be layoffs and there will be bankruptcies. Yes. But AI is never going to be rolled back. We are never going to see a pre-AI world ever again, just like Bitcoin never really went away.


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keclast Tuesday at 6:50 PM

Being a bubble does not mean there is no value in the thing, only that investment is outpacing the intrinsic value of the thing which is inherently unsustainable and will cause a collapse at some point. This also does not imply that the collapse will lead to a future value of 0.

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bigfishrunninglast Tuesday at 5:25 PM

But the days when every HN submission was about some blockchain thing did end -- and hopefully that'll happen for AI too. I'm sick of reading about it at this point, but it sure is most news stories (at the outlet's I'm usually interested in)

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robororlast Tuesday at 7:10 PM

I'd argue the crypto bubble did pop.

Bitcoin/crypto doesn't have earnings reports, but many crypto-adjacent companies have crashed down to earth. It would have been worse but regulation, or sometimes lack thereof, stopped them from going public so the bleeding was limited.

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dragonwriterlast Tuesday at 6:35 PM

There is an AI bubble just like there was a dotcom bubble; the fact that it is a real technology with real uses we with world changing long-term impacts does not mean that the recent investment hype will not soon be recognized as excessively exuberant given the actual payoffs to investors and the timelines on which they will be realized.

(And putting masses of people out of work and and thereby radically destabilizing capitalist societies, to the extent it is a payoff, is a payoff with a bomb attached.)

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rus20376last Tuesday at 5:04 PM

> AI on the other hand has the potential to put literally millions of individuals out of work. At a minimum, it is already augmenting the value of highly-skilled intellectual

This has been true since, say, 1955.

> This is the final capitalism cheat code. A worker who does not sleep or take time off.

That’s the hope that is driving the current AI Bubble. It has neither ever been true nor will be true with the current state of the art in AI. This realization is what is deflating the bubble.

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heathrow83829last Tuesday at 7:50 PM

>> We are never going to see a pre-AI world ever again

I mean, to one degree or another, this is correct. somethings are not going back into the genie bottle.

alextinglelast Tuesday at 5:15 PM

Even if all that were true, where is the path to profitability for OpenAI, and all the rest? If they can't pivot to making a profit, then they are going to pop, and their investors will lose all their money. That's the AI bubble... investors losing all their money.

The technology will remain, of course, just like we still have railways, and houses.

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bgwalterlast Tuesday at 5:24 PM

Bitcoin has had the fortune of being one of the settlement methods for sanctions evasion. Its price has almost certainly profited from the Ukraine war.

Renewed interest by the Trump clan with Lutnick's Cantor & Fitzgerald handling Tether collateral in Nayib Bukele's paradise wasn't easy to predict either.

Neither was the recent selloff. It would be hilarious if it was for a slush fund for Venezuelan rebels or army generals (bribing the military was the method of choice in Syria before the fall of Assad).

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thunderforklast Tuesday at 5:11 PM

A bubble that pops can still leave residue (see: dot-com)