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atonseyesterday at 9:51 PM4 repliesview on HN

As a sibling poster has said, I don't know how much on-device AI is going to matter.

I have pretty strong views on privacy, and I've generally thrown them all out in light of using AIs, because the value I get out of them is just so huge.

If Apple actually had executed on their strategy (of running models in privacy-friendly sandboxes) I feel they would've hit it out of the park. But as it stands, these are all bleeding edge technologies and you have to have your best and brightest on them. And even with seemingly infinite money, Apple doesn't seem to have delivered yet.

I hope the "yet" is important here. But judging by the various executives leaving (especially rumors of Johnny Srouji leaving), that's a huge red flag that their problem is that they're bleeding talent, and not a lack of money.


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scrollopyesterday at 9:54 PM

You don't have to abandon privacy when using an eye - use a service that accesses enterprise APIs, which have good privacy policies. I use the service from the guys who create the This day in AI podcast called smithery.ai -we are access to all of the sota models so we can flip between any model including lots of open source ones within one chat or within multiple chats and compared the same query, using various MCPs and lots of other features. If you're interested have a look at the discord to simtheory.ai (I have no connection to the service or to the creators)

twoodfinyesterday at 10:02 PM

I’m much more optimistic on device-side matmul. There’s just so much of it in aggregate and the marginal cost is so low especially since you need to drive fancy graphics to the screen anyway.

Somebody will figure out how to use it—complementing Cloud-side matmul, of course—and Apple will be one of the biggest suppliers.

ph4rsikalyesterday at 10:16 PM

On-device moves all compute cost (incl. electricity) to the consumer. I.e., as of 2025 that means much less battery life, a much warmer device, and much higher electricity costs. Unless the M-series can do substantially more with less this is a dead end.

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ebbiyesterday at 9:54 PM

Johnny Srouji sent out an email to his team confirming he is staying.