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isoprophlextoday at 6:26 AM7 repliesview on HN

    > I’ve seen generations grow up. Some grandparents come in with their grandkids and say, “Anna, remember the jukebox?”
    > Today, however, young people no longer come to the bar. They came when we had the dance floor and the music. Today, they like to spend time with the smartphone; they even take it to bed when they go to sleep.

What are we losing, what are we taking away from life, now that we ourselves have become a resource to extract. Probably, a lot.

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lqettoday at 7:18 AM

> Today, [young people] like to spend time with the smartphone; they even take it to bed when they go to sleep.

Recently my parents (in their mid-60ies) were visiting us. At some point I realized that both of them had been quietly sitting at our dinner table for over on hour, eyes glued on their smartphones. They are massively addicted. I have noticed that they get nervous as soon as the smartphone is out of reach, or even in silent mode. They mostly talk to friends via Whatsapp and are in constant fear that they miss out on something or that these friends (which also seem to spend most of their days on Whatsapp) will be offended if they don't reply within 5 minutes to the latest Whatsapp trivia. It is quite a struggle to even get them to turn off their phones when we are having dinner. The Whatsapp messages just keep coming in. My wife recently learned that her mother mostly spends her evenings with posting photos of her life on social media, and broke off contact with her brothers for a few days because they failed to quickly and enthusiastically react to some photos she posted on a family Whatsapp group.

But I guess for Anna Possi, my parents are "young people" and could be her grandchildren...

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sphtoday at 8:23 AM

I have recently moved into a new accomodation, and my neighbour is an elderly Italian lady in her mid 80s. Our first conversation was about how estranged she feels nowadays that everyone around her, young people but also middle-aged adults, are unable to connect not only with strangers but also among each other, filling every minute of their lives with a smartphone. Even the doctor's waiting room or Sunday mass doesn't feel the same, and she has to force people to snap out of it and just put the bloody phone down. She asked me how did I cope. I said I didn't, really.

We had a beautiful conversation about that as it is a topic that I think about a lot, yet whenever I breach it with any "adult" (millennial or older) the response I get is either a shrug, or denial. Weirdly enough, it is an easier topic to discuss with the younger generations, those that have grown up in the YouTube era, yet deep inside feel there is something crucial that's gone lost in our society and we haven't even started trying to recapture it.

simonebrunozzitoday at 7:01 AM

> What are we losing, what are we taking away from life, now that we ourselves have become a resource to extract. Probably, a lot.

Beautifully said. And sad.

trymastoday at 7:25 AM

Socrates would have drawn the line at writing and reading texts.

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vascotoday at 7:38 AM

When ever in the history of the world were humans not exploited by other humans, in much worse ways than now? I'd rather be google's data source for ads than be someones actual slave for example.

Also I don't really like these luddite sentiments, usually shared between the two extremes, old ladies that never used the internet so they don't understand what they are missing, and IT guys that are too jaded to see the benefits and are at the stage of "wanna become goat farmer". Outside addiction the internet is great.

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carabinertoday at 7:05 AM

Are we the bad guys?

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