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apexalphalast Wednesday at 10:10 AM3 repliesview on HN

I'm not sure if you're serious but in case you are (or other people):

TLS inspection is for EVERYTHING in your network, not just your publicly reachable URLs.

Putting Cloudflare anti-DDoS in front of your website is not the same as breaking all encryption on your internal networks.

Google can already see the content of this site since it's hosted... on the internet.


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dns_sneklast Wednesday at 10:40 AM

> Putting Cloudflare anti-DDoS in front of your website is not the same as breaking all encryption on your internal networks.

You misunderstood, they're complaining about it as a user. If your website uses Cloudflare then our conversation gets terminated by Cloudflare, so they get to see our unencrypted traffic and share it with whomever they want, compromising my privacy.

Which wouldn't be such a problem if it was just an odd website here or there, but Cloudflare is now essentially a TLS middle box for the entire internet with most of the problems that the article complains about, while behind hosted behind Cloudflare.

arianvanplast Wednesday at 11:20 AM

Given that 50-70% of the critical services I use in my daily life (healthcare, government, banking, insurance) all go through Cloudflare this practically means everything that is important to me as an individual is being actively intercepted by a US entity that falls under NSA's control.

So for all intents and purposes it's equivalent.

My point is: it's very hypocritical that we as industry professionals are complaining about poor cooperates being MITM'd whilst we're perfectly fine enabling the enfringement of fundamental human right to privacy of billions of people by all fronting the shit that we build by Cloudflare in the name of "security".

I find the lack of ethical compass in this regard very disturbing personally

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ForHackernewslast Wednesday at 12:06 PM

...do you send private messages using services hosted on publicly reachable URLs?