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impossibleforklast Wednesday at 3:40 PM15 repliesview on HN

I actually consider the pager attack to be legal. There's obviously criticism of it, but I'm fairly sure you're allowed to do this kind of thing by laws of war.

Obviously this creates a huge problem for pretty much everyone though, since we can imagine that our ordinary consumer products from all sorts countries could similarly explode if we ended up at war with the manufacturers.


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zug_zuglast Wednesday at 6:36 PM

I don't know if it's "legal" or not and by who's laws, but it certainly seems like terrorism to me (i.e. intentionally creating a state of terror).

I think if Lebanon found a clever way to assassinate the top 45 military commanders in Israel the same people who are defending this wouldn't be calling it a "Legal act of war".

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iberatorlast Thursday at 8:42 AM

FYI: Hezbollah is a legal political party in Lebanon.

Such attacks are nothing but war crimes. Targeting civilians and harming/killing them without trial is illegal NO MATTER OF WHAT.

All kinds of retaliation attacks are also illegal if harming civilians etc.

This is not my opinion but global consensus for the past 80 years globally

cramsessionlast Wednesday at 3:40 PM

Attacking a civilian population is a war crime.

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aprenticlast Wednesday at 7:20 PM

Legal or not it makes me afraid of Israeli technology.

I don't want to be part of their collateral damage.

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giraffe_ladylast Wednesday at 3:46 PM

All of the arguments I've seen supporting this attack focus on the idea that it's fine to kill and maim civilians including children as long as you will probably get some combatants. It's a little bit open to interpretation, I guess, and I'm not a legal expert so fine, ok.

But booby trapping mundane daily objects accessible to non-combatants is a clear violation of international law. No real room for leeway or interpretation on that one either.

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lo_zamoyskilast Wednesday at 4:11 PM

> "laws of war"

What you want to appeal to are just war principles.

jmyeetlast Wednesday at 7:39 PM

It's quite clearly a war crime. You're putting booby trapped devices into supply chains where civilians will foreseeably get them and be injured or killed by them. This includes medical professionals and their families, who were both victims [1].

It's the equivalent of blowing up a commercial plane or bus because there's a military commander on it. Or, you know, levelling a residential apartment building [2].

If anyone else had done this we'd (correctly) be calling it a terrorist attack.

[1]: https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/9/17/lebanons-terrib...

[2] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-says-it-struck-hez...

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thrancelast Thursday at 12:46 AM

If this attack had been carried on US soil it would have been grounds enough to justify another pointless war in the Middle East. But since it was committed by Israel unto a random Arabic country most Americans would fail to place on the map, it's "probably legal".

This is obviously terrorism. The methods are the same as terrorists, the intent is the same, the results are the same. 3000 wounded, this is extremely far from the "surgical precision" claimed by the fascist apartheid state of Israel.

cess11last Wednesday at 7:53 PM

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fortran77last Wednesday at 8:50 PM

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abdelhousnilast Wednesday at 10:28 PM

Using civilian infrastructure as a means to launch warfare on political and military opponent... Please remind us what were called the people using civilian planes against civilian buildings on New York on 9/11/2001 ? Yes terrorists. Same here although in a different scale but same goal : terrorizing the enemy.

Qiu_Zhanxuanlast Wednesday at 10:52 PM

It's not legal, the consensus among human rights organizations and UN experts is that it's a violation of international humanitarian law. But I guess the American urge to see middle eastern people suffer is alive and well.

hearsathoughtlast Wednesday at 7:00 PM

> I actually consider the pager attack to be legal.

If it was done to "israelis", I bet you'd be singing a different tune. Imagine if iran or saudi arabia or anyone else did this to "israelis", some whiny people would be calling it terrorism.

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