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milancurciclast Wednesday at 5:03 PM6 repliesview on HN

Neal delivers. I recently learned that viruses are not considered living being, but I'm nevertheless happy they're included here because they're both relevant and interesting in this context.


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rssoconnorlast Wednesday at 5:25 PM

Not that I'm qualified to reply, but I think this is debated. I seem to recall reading in "Immune" by Philipp Dettmer that there is an argument that a virus is analogous to a spore stage of life, and the virus begins "living" when it plants itself inside a cell full of "nutrients", sheds it's skin and begins consuming and replicating.

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cainxinthlast Wednesday at 5:13 PM

Viruses are to life as LLMs are to reasoning: they often behave like their category expects but not for the same reasons as the genuine article.

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alkyonlast Wednesday at 5:28 PM

They do have genes and are subject to natural selection so to say the least they are a clear borderline case.

someNameIGlast Thursday at 7:18 PM

From what I remember from undergrad the reason they're not life is that they lack their own metabolism, they use the metabolism of host cells. And metabolism needs to be a constant thing, they don't have any when outside a cell.

dsegolast Wednesday at 8:58 PM

I was taught in school they were something in between.

dartharvalast Thursday at 3:18 AM

Hey, if they originated naturally and interact with the environment and reproduce, they are living beings. Mere human taxonomists can't just "classify" away the fact.

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