alt Hacker News> > Subtype Requirement: Let ϕ(x) be a property provable about objects x of type T. Then ϕ(y) should be true for objects y of type S where S is a subtype of T.
This says "if hasattr(parent, 'pop') == True then hasattr(child, 'pop') must be True". This is not violated in this case, since hasattr(parent, 'pop') is False. If you want to extend the above definition so that negative proofs concerning the parent should also hold true for the child, then subtyping becomes impossible since all parent and child types must be identical, by definition.
The property in question is `hasattr(x, "pop") is False`.
> If you want to extend the above definition so that negative proofs concerning the parent should also hold true for the child, then subtyping becomes impossible since all parent and child types must be identical, by definition.
The distinction isn’t “negative proofs”, but yes, that’s their point. In Python, you have to draw a line as to which observable properties are eligible.