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bonsai_spoollast Thursday at 10:48 PM1 replyview on HN

> These people are academics, their entire career and ability to get continued funding

The people I'm referring to at Google et al. are also academics.

Graduate students, and even post-doctoral researchers, are not the ones cited for breakthroughs from a laboratory.


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UniverseHackerlast Friday at 12:20 AM

> Graduate students, and even post-doctoral researchers, are not the ones cited for breakthroughs from a laboratory.

What you are saying is not true- it is academic misconduct, with formal consequences, to not credit the person that did the work. Typically the grad student or postdoc that actually did the work is the first author listed on a publication, and the PI that advised and obtained funding is the last author. They both get credit for their respective roles in a very tangible way that is usually the deciding factor in career progression. They also personally both get listed on, and obtain a percentage of profits from any patents resulting from the work.

Moreover, no, researchers at a private for profit company like Google are not “academics.” They don’t need to follow strict institutional rules about fairly crediting people for their work, and they don’t need to bring in their own funding in the form of grants. An industry researcher only gets credit if their employer wishes them to, an academic is entitled to get credit for their work through formal rules.

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