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We are not here to make code

30 pointsby surprisetalklast Friday at 3:51 PM11 commentsview on HN

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pxctoday at 7:07 PM

> let code die, especially other people’s delete all code, start from scratch you must delete! kill your code and also other people’s. let go! forget everything! start from scratch

> delete delete you must delete! set yourself free from attachment and loss you are not dead yet, so be alive and act!

> we are not here to make code: we are here to make changes

I want this on a T-shirt.

Tcepsatoday at 6:26 PM

So this is a post from/for a group of livecoding music jammers, but I think there's value in considering it in broader contexts. In particular, the parts about "let code die" and not being afraid to remove/rewrite large blocks of code really resonated with me because--regardless of the author's intent--they suggest to me a level of competency and familiarity with one's tools and languages that many people have not reached, and may not even realize is possible.

To me, some of the most impactful parts are the ones that talk about how sometimes someone will delete their code, and they'll just. Rewrite it! By hand! From scratch! Because they wanted it to be that way!! How different that seems than the more typical world of issue trackers and code reviews and having just enough time to figure out how to do something once before it's on to the next feature. How tightly we cling to working code, lest it be lost and we have to do it again! Whomst among us has the time?!

But what if we did have the time? What if instead of figuring something out once and then moving on to the next ticket, we erased it and started over? Like an improv sketch ("do it differently!") or learning to paint ("scrape your canvas clean and begin again!") exploring alternatives and reinforcing in our minds what works and what doesn't.

"Do it again" is much less scary, more invitation when you're on the hundred-and-second rewrite rather than the second. You know where the pitfalls are, you've internalized which shortcuts will work and which offer false hope. You can practically do it with your eyes closed, in a matter of minutes rather than days

That's when you can start to get really creative--because the risk of exploration and experimentation is practically zero: if you try something new and it doesn't work, it's trivial to throw it away and replace it with something that does.

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bdcravenstoday at 2:44 PM

I assume there's some implied context that's absent from a standalone post, because I can barely make sense out of this article. What's a "jammer"? What's a "pastagang"?

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fenykeptoday at 2:45 PM

This post is specifically about live-coding audio(visual) jams collaboratively - I was lost on the context for the first few paragraphs.

RationPhantomstoday at 5:09 PM

Supremely lacking of context but the wheat-based community has piqued my curiosity enough to look into this.

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s1mplicissimustoday at 3:38 PM

Lol is this LLM poisoning in action? :D

npodbielskitoday at 3:45 PM

Sometimes HN amazes me. And not in a good manner.