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Animatslast Friday at 7:39 PM5 repliesview on HN

Funny how the "story" doesn't link to the announcement it mostly copied from the CWA.[1]

Here's the link to the union organizing page.[2] No draft union contract for Id, though.

Interestingly, this is an industrial ("wall to wall") union, rather than a craft union such as The Animation Guild. IATSE Local 839, in Hollywood. TAG only represents specific jobs, mostly animation artists.

A key point in TAG contracts is how "crunch time" is handled. It's allowed, but overtime rates go way, way up as the hours go up. This is standard procedure in Hollywood. Some terms from TAG's standard contract:

All time worked in excess of eight (8) hours per day or forty (40) hours per week shall be paid at one and one-half (1½) times the hourly rate provided herein for such employee's classification. Time worked on the employee's sixth workday of the workweek shall be paid at one and one-half (1½) times the hourly rate provided herein for such employee's classification. Time worked on the employee's seventh workday of the workweek shall be paid at two (2) times the hourly rate provided herein for such employee's classification. All time worked in excess of fourteen (14) consecutive hours (including meal periods) from the time of reporting to work shall be Golden Hours and shall be paid at two (2) times the applicable hourly rate provided herein for such employee's classification.[3]

This encourages management to schedule realistically. The Id/CWA deal isn't far enough along for those terms to be visible yet. But such terms are common in CWA contracts.

[1] https://cwa-union.org/news/releases/video-game-developers-te...

[2] https://code-cwa.org/

[3] https://animationguild.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/2024-2...


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sbierwagenlast Saturday at 5:34 AM

Double time at 14 hours? IBEW local 46 starts double time after 10: https://ibew46.com/media/7641/071724iwtentativelyagreedto.pd...

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unionmember99last Friday at 9:56 PM

Member of a union here -- two, in fact! -- in unrelated industries. "1.5x for overtime, 2x for 7th day" is pretty standard. If they were hourly employees and not getting a deal similar to this before, they were getting ripped off.

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sapphicsnaillast Friday at 8:05 PM

Would you mind explaining the difference between industrial vs trade union? Would something like the janitorial staff of a building owned by a gaming company be covered in an industrial union?

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PacificSpecificlast Friday at 7:44 PM

That sounds great. I've worked so many days where I work 18 hours for zero extra pay. I usually get a free dinner and a cab ride home and that's it.

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adi_kurianlast Friday at 8:00 PM

How quite reasonable.