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lillecarllast Friday at 11:11 PM4 repliesview on HN

By requiring high-school garage engineering to DOS your local RF services you prevent essentially everyone from doing it.

I'm all in to allow free access to reading waves, but broadcasting is regulated for good reason. Today I was in the subway when my Bluetooth headset started lagging, it's happened once before on a highway close to a specific car, this is DOS.

The radio spectrum is limited and it must be regulated and follow regulations, enforcement is really hard, it's a lot easier and reasonable to dump it on the manufacturers by locking the juice behind closed firmware.


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shagielast Friday at 11:53 PM

From the post "Yes, the FCC might ban your operating system" - https://prplfoundation.org/yes-the-fcc-might-ban-your-operat...

    2.1033 Application for grant of certification. Paragraph 4(i) which reads:

    For devices including modular transmitters which are software defined radios and use software to control the radio or other parameters subject to the Commission’s rules, the description must include details of the equipment’s capabilities for software modification and upgradeability, including all frequency bands, power levels, modulation types, or other modes of operation for which the device is designed to operate, whether or not the device will be initially marketed with all modes enabled. The description must state which parties will be authorized to make software changes (e.g., the grantee, wireless service providers, other authorized parties) and the software controls that are provided to prevent unauthorized parties from enabling different modes of operation. Manufacturers must describe the methods used in the device to secure the software in their application for equipment authorization and must include a high level operational description or flow diagram of the software that controls the radio frequency operating parameters. The applicant must provide an attestation that only permissible modes of operation may be selected by a user.

    2.1042 Certified modular transmitters. Paragraph (8)(e) which reads:

    Manufacturers of any radio including certified modular transmitters which includes a software defined radio must take steps to ensure that only software that has been approved with a particular radio can be loaded into that radio. The software must not allow the installers or end-user to operate the transmitter with operating frequencies, output power, modulation types or other radio frequency parameters outside those that were approved. Manufacturers may use means including, but not limited to the use of a private network that allows only authenticated users to download software, electronic signatures in software or coding in hardware that is decoded by software to verify that new software can be legally loaded into a device to meet these requirements.
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AnthonyMouselast Saturday at 2:46 AM

> By requiring high-school garage engineering to DOS your local RF services you prevent essentially everyone from doing it.

Likewise for requiring someone to change out drivers or firmware.

> The radio spectrum is limited and it must be regulated and follow regulations, enforcement is really hard, it's a lot easier and reasonable to dump it on the manufacturers by locking the juice behind closed firmware.

By far the largest problem in this space is users importing devices purchased via travel abroad or drop shipping and then those devices don't follow the rules.

Getting domestic users to follow the rules is not a significant problem because a) most people don't know how to modify firmware anyway, b) the people who do know how to do it are sophisticated users who are more likely to understand that there are significant penalties for violating regulatory limits and know they actually live in the relevant jurisdiction, c) if those users really wanted to do it they're the sort who could figure out how to do it regardless, and d) there is negligible benefit in doing it anyway (increasing power increases interference, including for you, and it works much better to just get a second access point).

It's not a real problem.

fookerlast Saturday at 7:56 AM

I am not opposing regulation of broadcasting.

I am against regulation of broadcasting equipment. There's a difference.

0x457last Friday at 11:47 PM

> By requiring high-school garage engineering to DOS your local RF services you prevent essentially everyone from doing it.

At most, it prevents people from accidentally doing it. Anyone who wants to do can figure it out on their own.