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rvnxlast Saturday at 3:46 PM8 repliesview on HN

Lot of arrogant people here who think they are safe and better than anybody and blame OP.

It is totally normal in today’s world to depend on cloud services and reasonably difficult to do without it. In China: no WeChat you are practically dead. Here try to join meetings without account, try to send a message on WhatsApp without account, etc… a lot can go wrong very fast. What if you used your Apple account as SSO to other services ?


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HumblyTossedlast Saturday at 6:57 PM

> Lot of arrogant people here who think they are safe and better than anybody and blame OP.

You see this a lot in the Apple "community". Apple can _never_ do wrong. Apple can _never_ make a mistake. Apple's choices are _always_ the best choices.

I don't understand why people put corporations on pedestals.

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alex1138last Saturday at 5:09 PM

Commentators here presumably work in the industry, possibly even for 'the big companies' (I'd say FAANG but any big, life-depending, big-architecture corp, but you know what I mean, basically)

They should be tripping over themselves of "How can we fix our corporate incentives to actually deal with customer problems". Not "lol OP, sux"

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tonymetlast Saturday at 3:55 PM

Very true. And account integrity check pointing is stochastic and more aggressive so at any time there are people being locked out .

One of 20 of your services could lock you out tomorrow and that means you’re blocked from coworkers and family

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nialv7last Saturday at 7:45 PM

it's not just about cloud service dependency, or his loyalty to Apple, or things like that. for important data you _have_ to have backups, 3-2-1 rule and all that. the fact he put all the eggs in Apple's bucket is beyond me.

sure i am dependent to cloud services as much as he is, much to my own chagrin, but at least i have all my data backed up??

Waterluvianlast Saturday at 4:13 PM

I’ve interpreted it as a sort of head-in-sand coping mechanism for those low-likelihood, high-consequence events people feel powerless over. It’s less distressing to be powerless if you decide that the real issue was a fault by the victim and not a powerlessness you have in common with the victim.

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ryandrakelast Saturday at 5:36 PM

It is possible to suggest preventative/corrective action without blaming OP. I find it kind of sad that you can't make helpful suggestions (to future potential victims) without someone saying you're "victim blaming."

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IndianShitbombslast Saturday at 4:00 PM

> t. What if you used your Apple account as SSO to other services ?

Your own wrongdoing. Always use a site-specific auth method, i.e. by email. And a separate email for each site.

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