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Therapeutic use of cannabis and cannabinoids: A review

48 pointsby bookofjoetoday at 1:32 AM35 commentsview on HN

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epolanskitoday at 7:54 AM

The abstract of the review is interesting and honestly reflects my (negative) experience with cannabis.

I admit, I really like cannabis, and when I was a 20 year old occasionally smoking with friends at parties it was a "healthier" alternative to getting wasted on alcohol. Share few joins with friends, have fun, laugh a lot.

Then as I got financially independent and I started solo consumption (mostly to get rid of stress) I really started appreciating the cons: lack of energy, disruption of sleep, negative impact of my cognitive abilities, increase in anxiety. I'm glad the study confirms those to be statistically common.

I was very lucky to have a SO who really disliked me smoking and made me realize that I was just doing it to "not think", and it had really 0 positive effects on me. I'm sure I would've quitted eventually anyway, but support and criticism sped up the reality check.

Eventually this is all anecdotal experience, and I'm sure there might be occasional users who can have a mostly positive experience, but the fact that a review points out how statistically common are the negatives and how uncommon are the positives honestly reflects what I've seen on myself and friends.

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sitharustoday at 7:57 AM

This paper is very much a case of read past the abstract, especially the limitations of the study. As always it’s important for a clinician to explain the risks and current evidence when prescribing, no matter the substance. A lot of medicines have limited evidence, but they still work for some people.

Personally I use prescribed pharmacutical cannabis oils as I have much lower levels of a couple of important enzymes than most people which renders opioids mostly ineffective, even intravenous morphine as I recently found out after surgery. High CBD cannabis oil works, as does paracetamol but that’s way more dangerous.

nicolixtoday at 8:47 AM

cannabis in many varieties and cannabinoids especially the most significant naturally made potentially cheaply sourceable receptors' agonist compound delta-9-thc, when taken not occasionally, in increasingly large quantities, in extracted purified forms, at high molar concentrations (up to and over 5-10 µM) have demostrated - albeit not in many clinical settings despite numerous studies since 1974 have confirmed such potential usage - a strong antiproliferative, antineoplastic, antitumor, anticancer activity.

baxtrtoday at 8:01 AM

> Evidence from randomized clinical trials does not support the use of cannabis or cannabinoids for most conditions for which it is promoted, such as acute pain and insomnia.

I think that’s the key message do the paper.

laroditoday at 4:30 AM

it is very important to also remind - no amount of alcohol is ever prescribed or sold in the pharmacies. the alcohol was legalized in order to a) reverse the ill effects of prohibition which led to birth of large-scale organized crime; b) to allow regulation of substances innit, as people were dying from bad booze.

likewise, nations may have to legalize in order to regulate the contents of whatever-white-powder users may stumble upon on the street. and let us be honest - no bombs can stop the Fentanil (or rat poison for all I care) from being mixed in.

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ursAxZAtoday at 7:20 AM

Different countries still treat cannabis very differently, and that alone shows how unsettled the whole topic is. I don’t know the full historical reasoning behind the bans, but there must have been perceived downsides at the time. It feels like society just keeps swinging back and forth on this.

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an0maloustoday at 4:40 AM

> Evidence from randomized clinical trials does not support the use of cannabis or cannabinoids for most conditions for which it is promoted, such as acute pain and insomnia.

I once slept in a hoodie with the hood under my back and woke up with horrible back pain, I could not sit still or focus on anything but the pain, 800mg of ibuprofen did nothing. I was about to go to the ER or urgent care when a doctor friend suggested trying cannabis, I took one small hit and was immediately pain free. I have never experienced such a dramatic medical effect in my life, one second I was writhing in pain and the next I was completely fine.

I’ve also seen videos of epileptics calming their seizures from cannabis. The autism community often speaks highly of it, how it makes them feel “normal” or more regulated. I’ve heard of stories of people getting off opioids by using cannabis. I think the people who get anxiety from it or no relief from insomnia are often taking far too much because there aren’t any good guidelines for self medicating and the guidelines they do get are from recreational users.

All I have are anecdotes, but given how obvious the effects were, I find it hard to believe there’s no medicinal value to cannabis.

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readthenotes1today at 4:30 AM

The sad thing to me, because of how it has affected, several family members, is that some smoke dope or take CBD to treat anxiety only to make things worse.

Because of how marijuana has been made nearly sacrosanct in some circles, they will not look at that THC or CBD as a contributing factor : (

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ynab6today at 7:36 AM

Weed is just cringe nowadays.

renewiltordtoday at 9:23 AM

The point of the studies was to establish a reason for people to use recreational drugs. Americans can’t be satisfied with “they’re fun” so people need to come up with a medical reason for it because “they’re suffering” is a get out of jail free card.

Everything is obviously fabricated. You think the snail darter is real? But the scientific consensus…