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dmantislast Monday at 10:43 AM5 repliesview on HN

For me it's so weird nobody makes a thing you can trust. I would happily overpay 3-4x for the good vacuum without the cloud and the need to do some hacking with valetudo, with an official service and support for the device. Yet nobody is willing to take the money. They'd rather go bankrupt..


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moooo99last Monday at 10:59 AM

> I would happily overpay 3-4x for the good vacuum without the cloud and the need to do some hacking with valetudo, with an official service and support for the device. Yet nobody is willing to take the money. They'd rather go bankrupt..

I feel like you are over estimating market demand based on your own preferences. Been there, done that. Most techies under estimate how little normal folks care about privacy, cybersecurity and stuff like that.

The market for privacy focused vacuum robots (at a significant premium) is probably not even going to pay for the injection mould tooling

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bee_riderlast Monday at 12:49 PM

Yeah. The real options are usually: a Chinese device from a company that seems nebulously a little close to their government, imported (so, limited need to follow local safety or privacy regulation); or, a US product from a company with explicit connections to the Google/Facebook/Amazon network, and with a warranty that lasts a whole month (as long as you don’t open the battery hatch).

I don’t know if people would pay 3X for something that actually works in their interest, probably not, but it isn’t as if such a product has been tried in the last ~50 years.

Workaccount2last Monday at 3:35 PM

>I would happily overpay 3-4x for the good vacuum without the cloud a

Those wall-to-wall advertising packed smart TVs that cost $350 for a 65" outsell the $1500 65" 10 to 1.

People love low prices. Their concerns about privacy are a distant second or even third (after aesthetics).

lotsofpulplast Monday at 1:36 PM

> Yet nobody is willing to take the money.

It’s weird that you have identified this business opportunity with such confidence, but you are also unwilling to take the money.

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sandworm101last Monday at 11:41 AM

Mine doesnt need cloud or internet. AIRROBO P20