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ltbarcly3yesterday at 4:14 PM4 repliesview on HN

It's a herbicide, not a pesticide. I clicked the article because I was surprised that any current pesticides are that harmful to humans.

Pesticides are, generally, safe to humans. Herbicides are, generally, not at all safe to humans. Roundup is probably the most safe outside of per-emergents like corn husks or whatever, but it's not a free ride either.


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ericmceryesterday at 9:04 PM

I am dubious of all the claims that say something designed to kill organic life is safe because it just means "safe at X dose". Like there isn't a pesticide made where I could drink a tablespoon of it and be fine. It just doesn't present noticeable effects at tiny doses so it is labeled safe.

Like if I drank a 1/4 shot of Vodka every morning I wouldn't notice it at all, but I imagine it would have some impacts on my health over the long run.

Not to mention we might have 30+ chemicals/medications/additives/whatever all being consumed constantly at "safe levels" with no research into how they interact or accumulate.

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neogodlessyesterday at 4:34 PM

https://kagi.com/search?q=Pesticide

> Pesticides are substances that are used to control pests. They include herbicides, insecticides, nematicides, fungicides, and many others (see table). The most common of these are herbicides, which account for approximately 50% of all pesticide use globally.[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide

You're trying to be pedantic, but you're actually wrong. If you think about it, from the perspective of anyone trying to raise crops, weeds are pests. (They are pests to lots of non-farmers, too.)

Similarly...

> A pest is any organism harmful to humans or human concerns. The term is particularly used for creatures that damage crops, livestock, and forestry or cause a nuisance to people, especially in their homes.

> Plants may be considered pests, for example, if they are invasive species or weeds.

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manarthyesterday at 4:45 PM

    > "Pesticides are, generally, safe to humans."
There are many common pesticides which have extreme toxicity to humans, including HCN (Hydrogen Cyanide), (ab)used under the brand-name Zyklon B in WW2, and still sold today as a (controlled-use) pesticide under generic brand names.

It's a chasm-leap to say that pesticides are generally safe to humans.

JumpCrisscrossyesterday at 4:17 PM

> Pesticides are, generally, safe to humans

Out of curiosity, why?

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