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pinkmuffinerelast Monday at 6:31 PM0 repliesview on HN

What is the non-insulting alternative? Here's my proposal:

Can we have an honest discussion that uses numbers instead of hyperbole?

Notably, that still seems pretty insulting to me. jimbokun wants to have an honest discussion about the problem, using true data instead of emotional exaggeration. This is a reasonable thing to ask IMO, but of course it seems like an insult towards the person that's making stuff up.