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pessimizerlast Tuesday at 6:39 PM1 replyview on HN

>> I don’t like the language and I do not want to see it continue to propagate through the software I use and want to control/edit/customize.

> This is how I feel about C/C++; I find Rust a lot easier to reason about, modify, and test, so I'm always happy to see that something I'm interested in is written in Rust (or, to a far lesser extent, golang).

You have to do better than "NO U" on this. The comparison to C/C++ is silly, because there is no way you're going to avoid C/C++ being woven throughout your entire existence for decades to come.

> I don't see why this ideological point should have any impact on whether a language is used or not. Clang/LLVM are also open-source, and I see no reason why GCC is better for these purposes than those.

I hope you don't expect people to debate about your sight and your imagination. You know why people choose the GPL, and you know why people are repulsed by the GPL. Playing dumb is disrespectful.

> don't portray your refusal to learn it as being somehow a negative for Rust.

But your sight, however, we should be discussing?

edit: I really, really like Rust, and I find it annoying that the clearest, most respectful arguments in this little subthread are from the people who just don't like Rust. The most annoying thing is that when they admit that they just don't like it, they're criticized for not making up reasons not to like it. They made it very clear that their main objection to its inclusion in Linux is licensing and integration issues, not taste. The response is name calling. I'm surprised they weren't flagkilled.


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keyboredlast Tuesday at 10:36 PM

> edit: I really, really like Rust, and I find it annoying that the clearest, most respectful arguments in this little subthread are from the people who just don't like Rust.

Keywords right there. People who don’t-like-Rust are the most coddled anti-PL group. To the extent that they can just say: I really need to speak my mind here that I just don’t like it. End of story.

I don’t think anyone else feels entitled to complain about exactly nothing. I complain about languages. In the appropriate context. When it is relevant or germane to the topic.

A “genius” Rust program running on a supercomputer solving cancer would either get a golf-clap (“I don’t like Rust, but”) or cries that this means that the contagion is irreversibly spreading to their local supercomputer cluster.

One thing is people who work on projects where they would have to be burdened by at least (even if they don’t write it themselves) building Rust. That’s practical complaining, if that makes sense. Here people are whining about it entrenching itself in muh OSS.

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