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RamblingCTOyesterday at 7:50 PM5 repliesview on HN

I've just had this topic with friends. How can finland and the nordics be further up than, say, spain? Have they ever been? Sure, materialistic safety is better up there. But the way of living, at least in my experience, is way higher. Look at suicide rates and alcoholism and such.

I'll spoil it: - Finland 38 - Norway 71 - Spain 137

(fun fact: USA is 31)

ranked by suicide. If you visit it, and the vibes and feelings you have don't match the statistics, the statistics are shit I'd say. And maybe cities and rural areas destroy this statistic. But what do I know (but the article agrees with me)


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estomagordoyesterday at 8:00 PM

Using suicide rates as a measure for population happiness is very peculiar, given that the people who commit suicide represent fractions of a percent, and would only ever sum up to a rounding error.

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bendtbyesterday at 7:56 PM

There is also a religious element to suicide that cannot be overlooked.

Also, I Spain your view of Spain is tainted. I think very few people would choose an average city in Spain over e.g. Copenhagen where 20% of the Danish population live.

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silisiliyesterday at 8:09 PM

Not for nothing, but I'm not sure that's a great metric. Venezuela for instance is 178, and it doesn't seem like an overly happy place to be these past few years.

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BurningFrogyesterday at 8:32 PM

Note that people who commit suicide don't answer surveys anymore.

refurbtoday at 12:38 PM

Even if the question was perfectly unbiased and captured happiness, comparing scores from country to country are impossible because the scale differs from country to country.

A 10 in Afghanistan is not the same as a 10 in Canada. Societies have different perception of “the best” based on each individuals experience, what society values and what they think is possible.

So while helpful in tracking happiness over time within the same country, it can’t be used to compare countries.