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nobody_r_knowslast Tuesday at 8:41 PM7 repliesview on HN

my question to your anecdotal: who cares? not being fecicious, but who cares if someone reproduced your stuff and millions of people see your stuff? is the money that you want? is it the fame? because fame you will get, maybe not money... but couldn't there be another way?


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swatcoderlast Tuesday at 8:47 PM

People have values that go beyond wealth and fame. Some people care about things like personal agency, respect and deference, etc.

If someone were on vacation and came home to learn that their neighbor had allowed some friends stay in the empty house, we would often expect some kind of outrage regardless of whether there had been specific damage or wear to the home.

Culturally, people have deeply set ideas about what's theirs, and feel like they deserve some say over how their things are used and by whom. Even those that are very generous and want their things be widely shared usually want to have have some voice in making that come to be.

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oxag3nlast Tuesday at 9:14 PM

To clarify my question - I do not want anything I create to be fed into their training data. That photo is just an example that I caught and it became personal. But in general I don't want anymore to open source my code, write articles and put any effort into improving training data set.

netulelast Tuesday at 8:46 PM

Suddenly, copyright doesn't matter anymore when it's no longer useful to the narrative.

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illwrkslast Tuesday at 8:50 PM

The issue is ownership, not promotion or visibility.

Forgeties79last Tuesday at 9:10 PM

As a professional cinematographer/photographer I am incredibly uncomfortable with people using my art without my permission for unknown ends. Doubly so when it’s venture backed private companies stealing from millions of people like me as they make vague promises about the capabilities of their software trained on my work. It doesn’t take much to understand why that makes me uncomfortable and why I feel I am entitled to saying “no.” Legally I am entitled to that in so many cases, yet for some reason Altman et al get to skip that hurdle. Why?

How do you feel about entities taking your face off of your personal website and plastering it on billboards smiling happily next to their product? What if it’s for a gun? Or condoms? Or a candidate for a party you don’t support? Pick your own example if none of those bother you. I’m sure there are things you do not want to be associated with/don’t want to contribute to.

At the end of the day it’s very gross when we are exploited without our knowledge or permission so rich groups can get richer. I don’t care if my visual work is only partially contributing to some mashed up final image. I don’t want to be a part of it.

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jiballast Tuesday at 8:47 PM

facetious

[I won't bother responding to the rest of your appalling comment]

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huflungdunglast Tuesday at 8:51 PM

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