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rootusrootuslast Tuesday at 11:59 PM1 replyview on HN

I don't know how the First Amendment applies, could you elaborate? And assuming it does, that does not seem like an impossible barrier; time, place, and manner restrictions are a thing. And like I said, we already do it at some level.

Doesn't mass surveillance plausibly violate the First Amendment, by having a chilling effect on speech and freedom of association? Or is the argument that it's private entities and the Constitution only limits the government?

Even in the latter case, at least we could do something about the government using private data collection to do things they are not otherwise permitted to do under the Constitution. That's some BS we should all be on board with stopping.


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15155last Wednesday at 1:00 AM

No law can prevent me from operating a corporation that collects and publishes license plate data for lawful purposes (basic freedom of the press.) If I can see something in public (where no reasonable expectation of privacy exists), I can report on it. Very few exceptions exist to this - think national security or military installations.

> Doesn't mass surveillance plausibly violate the First Amendment, by having a chilling effect on speech and freedom of association?

Plausibly, but no relevant case law I am aware of makes this interpretation.

We can prohibit the government from utilizing and collecting the data: absolutely, but you cannot prevent the people from doing the same.

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