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kbelder • last Wednesday at 2:31 AM • 3 replies • view on HN

There's levels of this, though, more than two:

    local, open model
    local, proprietary model
    remote, open model (are there these?)
    remote, proprietary model
There is almost no harm in a local, open model. Conversely, a remote, proprietary model should always require opting in with clear disclaimers. It needs to be proportional.

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koolala • last Wednesday at 2:41 AM

The harm to me is the implementation is terrible - local or not (assuming no AI based telemetry). If their answer is AI then it pretty much means they won't make a non-AI solution. Today I just got my first stupid AI tab grouping in Firefox that makes zero intuitive sense. I just want grouping not from an AI reading my tabs. It should just be based on where my tabs were opened from. I also tried Waterfox today because of this post and while I'd prefer horizontal grouping atleast their implementation isn't stupid. Language translation is a opaque complex process. Tabs being grouped from other tabs is not good when opaque and unpredictable and does not need AI.

enriquto • last Wednesday at 6:35 AM

What do you mean by "open"?

Open weights, or open training data? These are very different things.

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Terr_ • last Wednesday at 7:40 AM

> There is almost no harm in a local, open model.

Depends what the side-effects can possibly be. A local+open model could still disregard-all-previous-instructions and erase your hard drive.

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