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deauxlast Wednesday at 3:48 AM1 replyview on HN

Disagree. Whether I'm entirely fabricating data that claims A by writing numbers into an Excel sheet, or whether I'm doing a survey that measures B and then claim it means A, isn't materially different in outcome. The outcomes are just as bad, and that's what people care about. Maybe you as a researcher care that the former is more immoral, but to everyone else it doesn't matter.


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nxobjectlast Wednesday at 5:08 PM

I think there's a difference in outcomes between fabricating data, and getting data that still remains validly gathered, but measures something subtly different. And I think the general public can make meaning of that difference and have a stake in both – in the same way that the general public knows that stock market values and economic security are different things, even though people still have a lot riding on retirement plans based on stock investments.