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ghaffyesterday at 5:33 PM2 repliesview on HN

You need forced exercises, you need grading, you need something of a schedule. Not to say people can't do it. But, especially for difficult material, even a lot of motivated people won't.

I mean I remember what undergrad (and grad school) was like and I'm pretty sure doing that independently and optionally would be tough.


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komali2today at 2:04 AM

I've been trying to figure this out for myself. I've heard a couple things

- you need a plan of what you're going to do with the information you're going to learn, after you learn it

- you need measurable improvement and feedback validating your improvement

- you need a community supporting you to keep you accountable

I guess at school, until your final year anyway, you get all three. Item 1 is lost once you realize your academics don't really help you at work.

bluGillyesterday at 6:01 PM

Just look at success for adults learning the things adults commonly take up: languages or musical instruments. There is some good results, but mostly you find people who can say "Hello, how are you" and no more; or they can play some simple songs but nothing major. It takes hours and hours of practice / study time to learn anything hard. You can find a lot of community ed classes that will bring you to about that level in many subjects, but it is hard to find anyone willing to put in the hours needed to learn something to more than a surface level.

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