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201984yesterday at 6:33 PM4 repliesview on HN

It's great until they break their phone, or spill coffee on it, or just lose it, and now they are locked out of EVERYTHING with no good way to get back in.

Passwords on a piece of paper for better or worse do not have that problem.


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eddygyesterday at 6:42 PM

Only if they're not backing up their phone, which seems insane in this day and age.

And even if they're not, if they have a computer or tablet, the passkey will still be available there assuming they share an account.

You can also recover your iCloud Keychain via a designated/trusted Recovery Contact (e.g. spouse, who presumably hasn't destroyed their phone at the exact same time), or via iCloud Keychain escrow.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/passwords-devices-iph...

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eliyesterday at 6:36 PM

Android syncs them to your Google account and iPhone to your iCloud account by default. Which isn't a perfect solution but, again, is pretty good for most people.

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Barrin92yesterday at 6:46 PM

>with no good way to get back in.

which is why at the very least your email provider gives you a recovery kit to print out (the equivalent of the notebook) and if you can get back into that account you'll likely be able to get into whatever else you signed up for.

There's no difference here between passkeys and any other central storage be it a password manager or a physical notebook. If you lose that access, well you're screwed. But it always beats having hotdog123 as your password for 70 different sites.

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