> Name some others then, compare and contrast.

No need, because whether an online community is more thoughtful or smarter than another is very subjective. Almost by definition, HN is not it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all that. Of course, by internet law, HN (or a subset of its members) considers itself to be the smartest, more thoughtful online community.

There are communities I like better, which are smarter and more thoughtful, but I've no desire to argue with you.

> As-is your argument is just posturing

Nah. Hard pass. Nice try though!