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starsky411yesterday at 10:26 AM7 repliesview on HN

This remind me of that saying - no original version but it was like: tough times makes tough people, soft times makes soft people. And I hope it’s not true. But indeed the more choices you have in life, the harder it gets to chose the right thing to do.


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actionfromafaryesterday at 10:34 AM

In aggregate, tough times make people malnourished, alcoholic, traumatized, lower IQ, apathetic, aggressive. In no particular order or combination.

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dredmorbiusyesterday at 4:59 PM

The original quote is from G. Michael Hopf, in Those Who Remain (2016):

"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

<https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8751435-hard-times-create-s...>

It reflects many former cyclical-view-of-history / social cycle theory concepts, dating back literally thousands of years:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_cycle_theory>

gherkinnnyesterday at 11:31 AM

Why can't this meme die? It is so obviously rubbish. Good times allow for a people to divert more energy to specialisation and growth and might and art and then displace the "hardened" people.

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komali2yesterday at 10:35 AM

Good times make soft men, bad times make hard men. I never quite understood what the implication was and I always questioned the historical accuracy because no part of history is so easily defined as "good time" or "bad time."

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meindnochyesterday at 12:00 PM

This is a famous quote by the renowned warrior-philosopher Joe Rogan.

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UncleMeatyesterday at 1:20 PM

I swear, people will do anything to make claims about history except speak with actual historians.

hshdhdhj4444yesterday at 11:07 AM

How did we end up in a world where the stupidest memes are considered insightful.

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